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Who are orange pi ?

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mattrix  
Odroid C-1 is much better, and well supported and does Android 4.4 and only $35 USD

http://hardkernel.com/main/products/prdt_info.php

mattrix replied at Sun Jan 18, 2015 22:42
Odroid C-1 is much better, and well supported and does Android 4.4 and only $35 USD

http://hardkern ...

but it doesn't have Sata connector.

When the ski season will end ( ), I'm thinking to build a distributed peer 2 peer backup network and a board like our BananaPI is a big added value vs existing solution ...
The fact the OrangePI has a built-in Flash is really a plus for such project ... but it seems they are not delivering all cards with that.

Not a clone or ?
Raspberry PI 2. A quad core Broadcom
http://raspi.tv/2015/raspberry-pi-2-the-new-quad-core-a7-pi2

tkaiser  
Edited by tkaiser at Mon Feb 2, 2015 13:06
harryweb replied at Mon Feb 2, 2015 03:28
Not a clone or ?
Raspberry PI 2. A quad core Broadcom
http://raspi.tv/2015/raspberry-pi-2-the-new-qu ...


At the heart of the new RPi is a Broadcom SoC that still has neither Ethernet nor SATA. The only connection to the outside is a single USB port. Attached to this port is SMSC's LAN9514, an integrated USB hub with integrated ultra slow Ethernet like before.

If you think about storage and network interconnections the new RPi suffers from the very same bottleneck as before: The single inefficient USB2.0 connection every data packet has to pass (twice when you want to use your board as NAS).

For ARM based NAS devices there exist three choices:

A20/RTL8211 based cheap boards like the Bananas and Oranges or the pcDuino3 Nano, A20-OLinuXIno-LIME2 and the older Cubietruck

If you want it faster then have a look at boards with Freescale's i.MX6 (SATA speed approx. 100 MB/sec in both directions, internal Gbit Ethernet limited to approx. 470 Mbits/sec, can be combined with an external NIC via PCIe that is able to exceed 900 Mbits/sec -- compare with Utilite Standard/Pro).

And then there exists Marvell Kirkwood/Armada SoCs which are designed for NAS useage and provide both good SATA as well as network speeds (most low cost NAS devices are built around them)

And while NVIDIA's Tegra/Jetson also provides both Gbit Ethernet and SATA it makes no sense to choose this platform unless you really need the performance of the 4 A-15 cores and especially the 192 CUDA cores the integrated GPU provides.

Katylar  
Orange Pi does seem like a good alternative if you plan to deploy a multi-unit setup (cheaper). In my case, I need a single-board computer with integrated WiFi. I would have loved using either an Raspberry or the ODroid, but both don't have the capability. Only Banana Pro—and now, apparently, Orange Pi as well.

gaara  
Edited by gaara at Wed Mar 25, 2015 14:20

I'm running with an Orange Pi (normal) and the difference with the BPi are:
- the wifi (said before)
- and the AV / audio output: In the Orange, it's the same jack (3 points) for audio & video, and the BPi has 2 differents connectors.
So I had a bug with a TV driver under Android, with the audio plug. (see here)

Otherwise, no problems with BPi images (except wifi, just a change in file.fex) or BPi sources. Both card are almost same.

jekader  
Wow, that's a lot of semi-compatible clones I must say. I'm pretty sure this is how they make them:

get a reverence design from Allwinner
auto-route PCB
apply random fruit clip-art logo
...
PROFIT

Then LeMaker calls these boards opensource without sharing any of the schematics. Yet with the process described above plus the fact they're all mimicking Raspberry means we get pretty similar boards right from the oven!

Of course I's like to know that designs of the board I'm using are open yet then we may be flooded with counterfits of questionable quality. On the other hand Adruino has tons of clones most of which work fine and the community is not fragmented.

Back to my point: keep the clones coming! Once a truly opensource one will emerge which will become the standard.

bprpcb  
jekader replied at Wed Mar 25, 2015 13:14
Wow, that's a lot of semi-compatible clones I must say. I'm pretty sure this is how they make them:
...

schematics  are here, you should see the latest news before your post on the forum:
http://forum.lemaker.org/thread- ... c_for_bananapi.html
http://forum.lemaker.org/thread- ... for_banana_pro.html

jekader  
Edited by jekader at Thu Mar 26, 2015 00:34
bprpcb replied at Wed Mar 25, 2015 19:45
schematics  are here, you should see the latest news before your post on the forum:
http://forum.l ...


I saw these schematics. PDFs are not even close to call the board OpenSource. Schematics as these are included into service manuals for any motherboard on the market. These are only good for repairs, they will not allow you such a board in case LeMaker ceases to exist for example.

Take a look at allwinners reference design here:
https://github.com/OLIMEX/OLINUX ... D_V1_1.rar?raw=true

note the .DSN (OrCAD) file in the archive - we have not seen this for Banana boards, and probably never will.

bprpcb  
jekader replied at Thu Mar 26, 2015 00:29
I saw these schematics. PDFs are not even close to call the board OpenSource. Schematics as these  ...

The same situation as Raspberry Pi and most the boards in the market.

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