New Wiki page added for Android

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dlanor  
@roses2at:
I understand how you came to the conclusion that the Android 4.4 image might be 'half rooted', needing only a simple fix to make it properly rooted. But that conclusion is incorrect.

It is perfectly normal for the top level root directory to be visible in file managers even on unrooted devices. This is necessary since it is through this directory that access is linked to the areas users are allowed to access even on unrooted devices (such as "/sdcard" usually symlinked through "/mnt/sdcard"). But even there much of the content is write-protected. And access is totally blocked in most of the system subfolders of the  root directory, such as "/data", which shows tons of important content on a rooted device, but looks like an empty folder on most non-rooted devices (including Android 4.4 for BPi).

It is theoretically possible to root any device which allows access by developer tools, as described by wdehoog, but the methods required are often complicated and messy. And the requirements are also inconsistent, so what works for one device might not work the same way for another.

These are just some of the reasons why I don't find the Android 4.4 image worthwhile, so I will stick with the Android 4.2 image at least until a pre-rooted image of Android 4.4 is released.

Best regards: dlanor

Post Last Edited by roses2at at 2014-10-3 11:55

@dlanor

'Chapeau!' to you as the French would say.

I bow to your superior knowledge, tech-savvyness, overall expertise and experience in all things Androidy and accept that my conclusion was indeed incorrect.

Yes, it seems to be becoming clear that many people like you are sticking with the 4.2, but my sincere hope is that by putting up this new Wiki page for 4.4 it will fire up enthusiasm for it and maybe all those technically competent people out there will step up to the plate and meet some of its challenges head on (or even better, inspire its developers to do so and quickly produce a non-beta and fully working version ASAP. I wonder if those guys are reading these pages. Let us know if you are.)

Personally, after 9 or 10 boots of 4.4, and after it should have sorted itself out with updates and so on, irregardless of the rooting issue, I just find it too sluggish and, with various things like Launcher, Chrome, Play Store and other basic apps giving 'I've stopped working - Wait or Cancel?' messages, simply unwieldy. I'm not sure if this is because of poor programming/coding/adaptation to the Pi or because the A20 SoC is just not up to the job of this very demanding OS.

Also, the booting up lag time (which is still there after many boots and choosing the option at shutdown 'This device will next boot in Quick Mode' seems to have absolutely no effect), as well as occasional black screens which again is not solved with a short press on the Power button per the readme.txt, I find unacceptable.

I also will therefore be mainly using 4.2.

Post Last Edited by roses2at at 2014-10-3 11:38

Reply 1# roses2at


New section in the Android Wiki added today:

DragonFace - editing software for Android images

http://wiki.lemaker.org/Android#DragonFace_-_editing_software_for_Android_images




Please contribute and add something to this part of the Wiki if you have extensive experience of using this software - thx

Reply 11# dlanor


  
I don't find the Android 4.4 image worthwhile,

Since the app 'Quick Boot (Reboot)' from Sirius requires root privileges, did you ever find a way of gently (via software) restarting & shutting down 4.4, rather than using your patent 'stick a matchstick into the hole in the case to press the button' procedure?

FWIW, I have an acrylic case for my Pi (from Amazon - cost about 7 Euros), but when I built it I left out both short sides for the ends, and only used the top and bottom plates and the 2 long sides. Easier for access to the buttons and for inserting the SD card, as well as (maybe) improving airflow for cooling purposes.

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